Hey what’s up guys, so I want to talk about black Frieza VS Beast Gohan here today in this post. Because there are so many people trying to compare the Fighters and Gage (who is stronger), like they’re two of the most recent transformations in Dragon Ball Super Franchise.
But I’m gonna give you the truth in this Post because there’s a big misunderstanding when trying to compare the two characters, and it all boils down to anime vs manga two separate continuities of Dragon Ball super. Two different timelines, two different Power scales, and I’m gonna go into that right now so do me a massive favor guys, give your comment it really helps me know your opinion and I appreciate that.
Thank you so much for reading as we know Beast Gohan is an anime only character as of right now I’m making this post. Black freezer is a manga only character right now as I’m making this Post.
Misinterpretation on the power of beast Gohan & Black Frieza explains
Difference Power Scaling Anime & Manga DBS
You see in Dragon Ball superhero, the story has been presented as the sequel to Broly multiple times and as of the time I’m making this video, there is no mention of an animated version of the Moro and Granola arcs. The animated version of events actually shows the superhero story following the Broly movie. Unless you can prove me wrong or give me an evidence that Granola and Moro took place in the anime, I will not be surprised.
In that instance, I will retract the statements I made and apologize for misinformation. However, you can’t because they are manga events only for now. We all know that anime and manga events are executed in completely different ways.
But the thing about the Morrow and Granola arcs is that there is absolutely no mention, as far as I know, of an anime version of these events so you can’t use them.
So when people compare Beast Gohan to Black Frieza I see a lot of scales where Black Frieza’s power is calculated from the anime version of the events from what was seen in the Resurrection F Arc and from what was seen in the Tournament of power anime and you can’t do it that way.
Because the scale of the anime is totally different from the manga one invalidates one’s own power scale because one chooses benchmarks from the anime and the manga that have been reached through different calculations and different numbers in the anime.
Certain events can increase the power of characters beyond what is written in the manga. because things don’t happen
For example, in the manga as Goku absorbed the form of god in his basic form in the battle of God’s Ark. Say beyond God is not officially in Dragon Ball super manga. It’s a promotional manga panel of Dragon Ball Z Resurrection F that was incomplete and not related to the Dragon Ball super manga, it’s a promotional manga version of the movie Resurrection F. And this movie is different from the continuity of Super, which means you can’t extract scales from different continuities and there are plenty of other things going on in the anime that can make the scale higher than the manga.
How Strong is Black Frieza – Power Scaling Anime
Black Frieza is a fictionalized version of events. You are giving it an unfair and massive power. Black Frieza can only be measured by finding out the place he was last seen. That would be the power tournament where he left Whis. However, this was not mentioned in manga because they were discussing what happened during Broly. We see panels illustrating similar events in the Broly incident. But, we don’t know how they happened in the manga, because there is a dialogue in the manga, believe it or not, where Goku and Vegeta say that they merged and that they defeated Broly in some way.
because in the anime Gogeta blew up Broly, they didn’t beat him somehow in the anime, they swept him off the ground. Broly can be seen in manga closer to Gogeta. He is stronger than a blue Saiyan, as in the anime.
So you can see what I am referring to, Black Frieza cannot be evaluated beyond the power of the monster until the moment he defeated the real Ultra Instinct Goku or Alter Ego Vegeta.
Black Frieza must be scaled between the two landmarks of the manga. After that, all raw scaling should occur. Now, when it comes to the Gohan Beast, we’re already at a higher scale than the anime, ripped apart by the underpowered.
How Strong Is Beast Gohan? – Power Scaling Anime
The entire story of Dragon Ball, the movie about the Dragon Ball superhero, was that Gohan was the strongest man in the world by putting his mind into the fight. Piccolo and Gohan didn’t even deny this after the fight. It was a confirmation.
Gohan must be prepared to face any threat and should continue training.
That’s a problem because that’s not how it works, the narrative trumps the power scale, go ask the creators. Even if it breaks the power scale, you have to count it, you have to do it because it’s narrative, it’s a story, not a math exam and they don’t write these stories with a power scale in mind.
If they want to make someone strong, then they will. However, you need to tweak your power scale and adjust all the numbers. This can cause us major headaches. because all our hard work on power scales don’t mean anything officially. so to me, let’s just do power scales and stuff like that for fun and to keep it sane ok.
to keep things simple, let’s try to base the power scale mainly on the narrative, it’s less headachey. Even though it might be stupid and broken, I’d rather something be stupid and broken but not give me a headache. because I don’t think about it too much rather than trying to make sense of bad writing. Bad writing shouldn’t be a reason to suffer.
it’s not our job to fix this stuff.
The series has a lot to offer and the game is full of dialogue that illustrates the power scale.
If you were to put the two Gammas together with Vegeta and Goku in terms of form in anime, it would be Kaioken x 20 and the blue evolution form.
You can’t compare the Gammas to Goku and Vegeta if you use Ultra Instinct and blue Evolution, because we know that there is a huge gap between Ultra Instinct and blue Evolution.
Gammas are on the same level with blue Kaioken, and understanding that would mean that blue evolution and the ultimate Gohan in the superhero film is also on that level. That means he has grown stronger since the anime.
Beast Gohan is a level higher than that, making him the strongest person in the world. Ultra Instinct is also the next level up from blue Kaioken.
Black Frieza VS Gohan: Who would win?
Anyway, No more chitchat and let’s get to the point with the comparisons, First we have black Frieza, the Tyrant of the universe 7, and after 10 years of training in some kind of room of the mind and time he met Frieza has reached a new form and crushed Ultra Instinct and Ultra ego.
On the other side we have the Beast Gohan, now as we all know Gohan has always been said to have one of, if not the… the greatest potential of the entire series, we have seen it many times before. Gohan, however, proved to be one of the top contenders for the title of strongest universe citizen after the Dragon movie on super heroes.
Toriyama actually stated that Gohan was supposedly stronger than Vegeta or Goku, and that Gohan was the strongest. On the other hand, we have Frieza that we saw with our own eyes defeating both Ultra Instinct Goku and Ultra ego Vegeta after they were healed to full strength by monado and then there is this prophecy from the oracle fish about the strongest warrior in the universe, Granola and Gas not being in the equation anymore, Goku asks Whiskey if it was Frieza that the oracle fish was talking about, but of course Whiskey doesn’t give us a clear answer. He mentions that the universe may have seen the strongest warrior.
Now, given Toriyama’s statements about the Gohan beast and the fact that the superhero movie is essentially a Canon, let’s say that it’s the Gohan beast that is now the strongest warrior in the universe. Whisky may have meant that this was who Whisky was referring too. The manga will need to do some retrospectives on the movie, such as the scene in which Vegeta (and Goku) train next to Broly and talk about beating Jiren. context of the story about Gohan’s transformation and where exactly this is going to scale him up in terms of power.
Anyway for the sake of a “what-let’s say Gohan the Beast is the strongest warrior Whisky was talking about, but how would a fight between Black Frieza and Beast Gohan play out?
Exploits Comparison – Black Frieza Vs Beast Gohan
Exploit Beast Gohan
If we put these two together, would there be a clear winner? I believe so. I’m probably a little biased, but just for the sake of this post, we’ll answer this question using the way the narrative works in Dragon Ball and the way these two were portrayed.
but first, let’s compare the innate potential of these two, we already know that these two are generally built differently i mean Gohan was the first to unlock Super Saiyan 2 and after unlocking his potential he technically remained the strongest Z fighter while being the strongest without fusion, that is even at the end of Dragon Ball Z. however, Dragon Ball super wasn’t really very kind to Gohan at first, i mean he was he was left in the dust by Goku and Vegeta until the tournament of power and that’s when things got interesting for Gohan.
Again Gohan trained with Piccolo for just one full day and became able to train on par with Goku and that’s when he revealed how he plans to reach an ultimate form like no one has ever seen before.
Gohan was fighting against kefla during the tournament of power as if he were on par with Super Saiyan Blue. Finally, the superhero movie occurs and Gohan virtually storms past everyone to reclaim his title of strongest.
Exploits Black Frieza
Frieza was, however, done and dusted after the trunks had finished him off. The resurrection of Frieza saga, Dragon Ball Super and Frieza’s new golden form, the Golden Frieza, saw the homie take it further. Despite only training for three to four months, he still managed to compete against Vegeta and Goku, who were both heroes.
Vegeta, Goku, and Vegeta were both blue supersaiyans. He tells us that he achieved the true Golden Frieza by improving his energy control skills through Acute Focus on Missiles just before the Tournament of Power. In the Broly movie, he doesn’t necessarily show us any new forms or powers, which is to be expected since this movie was more about Broly.
Vegeta, however, talks to Goku in the Broly movie about what it would be like if Frieza took on a new form. That brings us to Chapter 87. So you are starting to see the parallels, aren’t you?
Frieza as well as Gohan are excellent at the art, potential, and are able jump many levels in less time than Vegeta or Goku. They have been mentioned at the very least once in the manga and in the movies.
What could the fight between Beast Gohan and black frieza look like?
Although it might be a clash, I don’t think it would be anything more than that. But if there is going be a battle at any point, there must be a story. Frieza may be thinking about how to humiliate his Duo of Saiyans, but as he is still thinking at night, he remembers the decision to destroy Planet Vegeta. He wonders if this is something he should repeat.
Only this time, Goku & Vegeta are still training at Planet Berus, Frieza arrives on Earth and attempts to destroy it using his Supernova or other means.
Piccolo and Gohan, of course, sense the imminent danger and rush to help cancel the attack. Gohan and Frieza would have much shorter dialogue than Goku or Vegeta and Frieza so there wouldn’t be much to say here although there is something inherently different about this situation.
Gohan needs something to trigger this Beast form so it’s pretty useless without that intense rage he felt during the battle with Cell Max but Frieza was smart here, his attack was purposely not powerful enough to be a problem, even someone like Krillin could have stopped it, which is why Gohan is unsure of Frieza’s intentions here, especially since he knows that their victory in the tournament depended heavily on Frieza’s performance in this situation.
Since Gohan didn’t pull the cover over Frieza, this situation wasn’t so black and white. Piccolo faced Gohan in Gohan’s basic form. However, Piccolo instantly turned orange. Unlike Gohan who knew there was something up. While Frieza may not have any kind of bloodlust or fervor, Piccolo could feel an almost dark sense of unease in the space.
Gohan was also cautious due to this unease. However, the external Trigger that he needed in order to evolve into his beast form wasn’t present. Frieza has two options for him to help him. He can either go and peel the orange in front of his face like he did with gas or continue his plan to destroy all of Earth.
I’m sure that both scenarios would happen in this state Frieza is of course not aware of the existence of the Gohan bee at this time and he is just analyzing the situation for the moment then suddenly Frieza turns black and leaves Piccolo and Gohan completely dismayed more unlike before they could feel the evilness that oozes from Frieza, he was going to destroy them, it was an absolute nightmare… He starts once again by hitting them simultaneously, as he did with Goku and Vegeta in the manga.
They are sent into the earth’s atmosphere as he bids them farewell and unleashes an ominous Supernova attack. It was a supernova attack that would destroy them and the planet. It was an absolute execution. Fortunately, before everything is completely destroyed, Gohan’s life flashes before his eyes and he remembers the moments when he evolved and defeated his opponents.
He had to learn how to anger and rage again in order to save everyone. Piccolo makes his move for destruction and impact. Gohan is unleashed in all directions and once more, Gohan emerges. He knows that Frieza doesn’t need to exist.
Seeing this kind of strange transformation the freezer remembers the moment when a Saiyan transformed in front of him for the very first time, this moment would be almost identical to Goku’s Super Saiyan transformation and Frieza received constant reminders of his many defeats in humiliation at the hands of the Saiyans during these 10 years of hard work.
He felt indifferent to the Saiyan’s progress for the first time. Now he knows that he is in a place of complete and undeniable trust and cannot lose it.
Last time, he trained three months. He could have said that he beat the Saiyans by a long shot, but he was proven to be wrong. Frieza this time has trained for a decade, 10 years. It takes four months to become a golden Frieza, so if we do simple math, Frieza will be at least 30x stronger than the golden Frieza.
The energy Frieza dodges effectively but then he is caught off guard by a quick elbow from behind or so Gohan thought as Gohan’s elbow makes contact with Frieza’s neck, he instantly turns around and sends a heavy kick to Gohan’s gut which sends his body into a spasm.
While Cell Max is a bio-engineered brute and absolutely terrifying, Frieza’s combat experience rivals that of the Gods. Gohan is shocked to discover that a powerful punch was just inches away from his eyes. However, he then experiences another devastating kick in the stomach. I think it would be fair enough to say that Gohan’s adrenaline induced transformation would probably not be able to eliminate the effects of the transformation.
I think it’s fair enough to say that Gohan’s adrenaline induced transformation probably wouldn’t be able to cope with Frieza’s speed and raw power black Frieza surpassed him in both strength and agility it’s not like Frieza was looking for a challenge he just came to smoke the earth right here Gohan isn’t not finished yet he focuses everything on a singular point and unleashes a punch induced by a special cryptic Cannon beam although this is a very good time in the battle for Frieza to reveal something crucial in the mind and time piece all he did was to use it as a weapon of mass destruction.
He has been doing image training in the mind and the time room. Every possible attack pattern and stopping lane has been countered while exploding strength and agility. This is the black Frieza. It declares a state of being that surpasses even ultra instinct.
Whisky was most definitely talking about the possibility that the strongest warrior has emerged somewhere in the universe, but the way I see it, Gohan isn’t there yet, I don’t even think it’s too far-fetched to say that the beast of Frieza is emerging from the universe. I don’t think it’s too far-fetched to say that the Gohan beast may not even be able to permanently overpower Goku as it is now.
That’s the whole issue of representation and perception with Gohan, we’re just told that he’s surpassed Goku and Vegeta, not to mention that the Goku and Vegeta he surpassed in the movie are still kind of stuck in the past, for lack of a better word, since the movie’s script was written in 2018 or 19 or something like that. … with Frieza on the other hand, we didn’t have to be told that he surpassed Goku and Vegeta, we could see this tangible proof with our own eyes when he simultaneously destroyed Ultra Instinct and Ultra Ego.
It is clear that there is no benefit to the doubt and there is no denying what has been seen. That is why, my humble opinion, If they had to compete in this context, Black Frieza would be able to outperform Gohan Beast.
How things are right now even though of course in the end it’s all speculation so let me know what you think about this Gohan the Beast or this black Frieza.
Let me know what you think, but either way, thank you so much for reading to the end, if you made it this far, I really appreciate and love this black Frieza form, it’s probably due in part to how Frieza showed up and perfected.
Have a great day and let me know down in the comments why I’m wrong or if you agree with me and I’ll see you all in a future theory.